SILLY SEASON 2018

I wonder if Hass will sponsor Kurt for 2018 if Monster doesn't, at least until another sponsors can be acquired?
 
Team Penske said:
I wonder if Hass will sponsor Kurt for 2018 if Monster doesn't, at least until another sponsors can be acquired?
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Probably depends on how much smithfield is spending....and if anyone else stays/steps ups or anyone else comes along.
 
BradBlaney said:
I would of rather had Kurt in the 21 than Menard, but Menard comes with sponsorship
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IMO Menard should just take the Elliott Sadler route and go back to Xfinity where he can be successful. He's fared well in the races I've seen him in. He'd probably be a championship contender in one of the Penske Xfinity cars which would still work for the Ryan Blaney sponsorship.
 
Snowman said:
IMO Menard should just take the Elliott Sadler route and go back to Xfinity where he can be successful. He's fared well in the races I've seen him in. He'd probably be a championship contender in one of the Penske Xfinity cars which would still work for the Ryan Blaney sponsorship.
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At least Menard can bring the sponsorship to keep the #21 on track, idk who else could've garnered that sponsorship.
 
BradBlaney said:
I would of rather had Kurt in the 21 than Menard, but Menard comes with sponsorship
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That would be you...and quite sure that you have the funds to keep the 21 solvent too.

Believe that Menard is better than you think...how many Brickyard's has Kurt won again? I say, give Menard a chance in top notch equipment instead of the hand me downs in a nepotismal organization.
 
Candace66 said:
:eek:

Imagine running--or being any part of--a Cup team, and having to wait until January to know if you have a primary sponsor or not?!
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it was December but Monster pushed it back one month for reasons I am not recalling right now.
 
Matt Kenseth’s only focus is on this season and moving on in the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Playoffs.

The veteran driver will leave Joe Gibbs Racing at season’s end and has not yet announced what his plans are for 2018. Kenseth has chosen to concentrate on his last five races with JGR and finishing well enough in Sunday’s Hollywood Casino 400 at Kansas Speedway to stay alive in the playoff picture.

"Nothing beyond right now," Kenseth said Friday at Kansas Speedway when asked if he had any announcement about next year. "We've got a lot to do, yet, in 2017. I'm not worried that much about next year."

http://www.mrn.com/Race-Series/NASC...7/10/Matt-Kenseth-Not-Worried-About-2018.aspx
 
LJ7201 said:
At least Menard can bring the sponsorship to keep the #21 on track, idk who else could've garnered that sponsorship.
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Valid point, but in that case instead of going in house at Penske, Blaney could have stayed with the Woods and Menard could fight it out with JRM and JGR in Xfinity for the championship. That's neither here nor there, I just think Paul is better suited in that series based on what I've seen thus far, who knows, he could surprise us in 2018.
 
Very few people are interested in demoting themselves. Elliott Sadler went down there so he could eat.

Menard doesn't have that problem.
 
aunty dive said:
Very few people are interested in demoting themselves. Elliott Sadler went down there so he could eat.

Menard doesn't have that problem.
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I'm just saying I think he'd have a legitimate shot at success and I feel that's where his skill level is. I'm not going to get into the money vs. success debate, because only Paul knows which is more important to him.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Matt Kenseth’s only focus is on this season and moving on in the Monster Energy NASCAR Cup Series Playoffs.

The veteran driver will leave Joe Gibbs Racing at season’s end and has not yet announced what his plans are for 2018. Kenseth has chosen to concentrate on his last five races with JGR and finishing well enough in Sunday’s Hollywood Casino 400 at Kansas Speedway to stay alive in the playoff picture.

"Nothing beyond right now," Kenseth said Friday at Kansas Speedway when asked if he had any announcement about next year. "We've got a lot to do, yet, in 2017. I'm not worried that much about next year."

http://www.mrn.com/Race-Series/NASC...7/10/Matt-Kenseth-Not-Worried-About-2018.aspx
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Most people would worry about the possibility of being unemployed in a month or so - unless they're planning to retire ;)
 
Snowman said:
I'm just saying I think he'd have a legitimate shot at success and I feel that's where his skill level is. I'm not going to get into the money vs. success debate, because only Paul knows which is more important to him.
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Sadler does it for a living. He never made the big money in the Cup series.

I think Menard fits into the "run with the big dogs or get off the porch" mindset.
 
OldTimer said:
Believe that Menard is better than you think...how many Brickyard's has Kurt won again?
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Did you really just try to convince everyone that Paul menard is better than Kurt?

How many championships Paul got? Better yet how many times has Paul menard been in the chase? Total number of career wins?

Kurt has 29 CUP wins... menard has 4 wins in all 3 national series...

I don't mind menard but there are much deserving drivers of the 21


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aunty dive said:
Very few people are interested in demoting themselves. Elliott Sadler went down there so he could eat.
Menard doesn't have that problem.
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aunty dive said:
Sadler does it for a living. He never made the big money in the Cup series.
I think Menard fits into the "run with the big dogs or get off the porch" mindset.
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I think Sadler is just a racer that wants to race. What he's worth and makes a year aint chump change. I'd take it.

Net Worth‎: ‎$25 Million
Source of Income‎: ‎Car Racing Driver
Annual Salary‎: ‎$2 Million
Monthly Income‎: ‎$166,000
 
Biggreen695 said:
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Believe that Menard is better than you think...how many Brickyard's has Kurt won again?
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Did you really just try to convince everyone that Paul menard is better than Kurt?

How many championships Paul got? Better yet how many times has Paul menard been in the chase? Total number of career wins?

Kurt has 29 CUP wins... menard has 4 wins in all 3 national series...

I don't mind menard but there are much deserving drivers of the 21


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk[/QUOTE]Hahahaha. Yeah I had to read that post three times to make sure I read it right. Using the Brickyard to compare Paul & Kurt is like using the Southern 500 to prove Regan Smith is more talented than Tony Stewart.
 
Johali said:
I think Sadler is just a racer that wants to race. What he's worth and makes a year aint chump change. I'd take it.

Net Worth‎: ‎$25 Million
Source of Income‎: ‎Car Racing Driver
Annual Salary‎: ‎$2 Million
Monthly Income‎: ‎$166,000
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Chicken feed. :D
 
aunty dive said:
Chicken feed. :D
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1000
 
aunty dive said:
People who's annual income has been 10 plus million for the last decade or so are unlikely to be worried about unemployment.
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He must have some concern for money or he wouldn't demand 8 million to drive.
 
KyBuownsyourbrain said:
He must have some concern for money or he wouldn't demand 8 million to drive.
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Perhaps he simply thinks that’s what his experienced services are worth, irrespective of current economics in his sport.

I wouldn’t describe it as concern, but that’s just me.
 
OldTimer said:
That would be you...and quite sure that you have the funds to keep the 21 solvent too.

Believe that Menard is better than you think...how many Brickyard's has Kurt won again? I say, give Menard a chance in top notch equipment instead of the hand me downs in a nepotismal organization.
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LMAO:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::huh::huh::huh::huh::huh: you think Menard is better than Kurt because Menard has a Brickyard win and Kurt does not, Kurt has a Cup championship, Menard does not.
 
Biggreen695 said:
Did you really just try to convince everyone that Paul menard is better than Kurt?

How many championships Paul got? Better yet how many times has Paul menard been in the chase? Total number of career wins?

Kurt has 29 CUP wins... menard has 4 wins in all 3 national series...

I don't mind menard but there are much deserving drivers of the 21
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You are correct and should not have been so quick with the keys, for that, accept my apology.

That being said, Menard, as some one else stated, will only run with the big dogs. Otherwise he will go sit on the proverbial porch. Along with almost 18% of the total car sponsorship money in ALL OF NASCAR.

Now think who is more important to NASCAR...Kurt or Paul. Does Kurt or his family sponsor multiple teams in all the venues of NASCAR? And keep this in mind, all those sponsors that are also a vendor to one named Menard, are only in NASCAR because he wants them to. Again, do not take this the wrong way, have always thought highly of Kurt's ability to wheel a car and he just might be a tad better than Paul. We should be able to find that out next year...but we would never know unless Paul drives a competitive car.
 
OldTimer said:
You are correct and should not have been so quick with the keys, for that, accept my apology.

That being said, Menard, as some one else stated, will only run with the big dogs. Otherwise he will go sit on the proverbial porch. Along with almost 18% of the total car sponsorship money in ALL OF NASCAR.

Now think who is more important to NASCAR...Kurt or Paul. Does Kurt or his family sponsor multiple teams in all the venues of NASCAR? And keep this in mind, all those sponsors that are also a vendor to one named Menard, are only in NASCAR because he wants them to. Again, do not take this the wrong way, have always thought highly of Kurt's ability to wheel a car and he just might be a tad better than Paul. We should be able to find that out next year...but we would never know unless Paul drives a competitive car.
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The menard family is definitely important to racing I'll give you that. Sittin here drinkin a cold beer watching the arca series presented by menards.

We'll find out what menard is made of next year. Blaney has shown how much potential that car has.


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OldTimer said:
That being said, Menard, as some one else stated, will only run with the big dogs. Otherwise he will go sit on the proverbial porch. Along with almost 18% of the total car sponsorship money in ALL OF NASCAR.
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What is your source for that shocking statistic? Something like that definitely needs credible support and attribution.
 
OldTimer said:
You are correct and should not have been so quick with the keys, for that, accept my apology.

That being said, Menard, as some one else stated, will only run with the big dogs. Otherwise he will go sit on the proverbial porch. Along with almost 18% of the total car sponsorship money in ALL OF NASCAR.

Now think who is more important to NASCAR...Kurt or Paul. Does Kurt or his family sponsor multiple teams in all the venues of NASCAR? And keep this in mind, all those sponsors that are also a vendor to one named Menard, are only in NASCAR because he wants them to. Again, do not take this the wrong way, have always thought highly of Kurt's ability to wheel a car and he just might be a tad better than Paul. We should be able to find that out next year...but we would never know unless Paul drives a competitive car.
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Sorry, Kurt is light-years faster than Paul. It would not surprise me if Paul fails to top Blaney's success in the Wood Brothers car.
 
Truex_rox said:
Sorry, Kurt is light-years faster than Paul. It would not surprise me if Paul fails to top Blaney's success in the Wood Brothers car.
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Lets keep in mind that Blaney went to WB with a competent team in place. I have no idea how well Paul will fit in with his new crew.
 
LJ7201 said:
This is because most of Blaney's #21 crew is following him to the #12, right?
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Yes. Penske sent the #22 Xfinity team to WB's with Blaney and that team is now moving in house
at Penske shop. Team Penske has never had a team in Xfinity that has been able to beat JGR since. ( I mean consistently)
 
I imagine Penske will provide competent people to crew Menard’s cars.

It’s up to his crew chief to turn them all into a team.
 
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