Truck RACE thread --- Iowa

Going pretty well for me, I don't expect a lot of people to agree with me because it's not the "safe" way to go but I'm just being honrst and most people hate the truth.

As an impressionable young lad, my grandfather passed on some wise words. After reading this exchange, one in particular stands out. "people may assume you to be a fool, when you open your mouth, you erase all doubts". Meditate on that.
 
You've been overserved

No I believe that you have entered a conversation with someone above you narrow mindedness and you can't compute.

As an impressionable young lad, my grandfather passed on some wise words. After reading this exchange, one in particular stands out. "people may assume you to be a fool, when you open your mouth, you erase all doubts". Meditate on that.

No most on here fool themselves into a conversation they can't handle, hence the reason they have to find a cute emoji or whatever. I know it's not a agreeable stance that I choose but yet no one can actually give reason as to why they think it's foolish or insane. They just can't comprehend that their are real people in the world that don't follow the narrative they have.
 
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No average people watch racing and don't hop in a 200mph race car every weekend.

A lot of average people grow up watching racing and decide to get in a four cylinder car or a Street Stock and go racing. There are an awful lot of those average people competing at short tracks all across America.
 
A lot of average people grow up watching racing and decide to get in a four cylinder car or a Street Stock and go racing. There are an awful lot of those average people competing at short tracks all across America.

Let me know when they get to NASCAR or any top level of racing and I'll inform you that they are no longer an average person.

I played high school football but didn't make it to the next level so I became ana average person.
 
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Let me know when they get to NASCAR or any top level of racing and I'll inform you that they are no longer an average person.

If grassroots racing dies, so does NASCAR. There's a reason NASCAR has a Home Tracks program.

And in parts of the Carolinas and Virginia, the CARS Tour is more popular than NASCAR.

I played high school football but didn't make it to the next level so I became ana average person.

Did you celebrate when your teammates got injured?
 
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If grassroots racing dies, so does NASCAR. There's a reason NASCAR has a Home Tracks program.

And in parts of the Carolinas and Virginia, the CARS Tour is more popular than NASCAR.
I wouldn't really even call those people average. It takes balls to hop in a race car man. Of all people you should know this. To call a race car driver an average person would be to put them on mine or your level and I won't do that.

Personality wise yeah they're average people but they do something that the average person doesn't. I don't think Joe Nobody from nowhere should be able to drive any NASCAR vehicle and it should be more of a challenge for the drivers. It's becoming too easy as well.

Did you celebrate when your teammates got injured?

Hell no I took a knee and honored them. Same way NASCAR fan's rally around the sport when a tradagy does happen.

I fail to see how "the sport is too safe" comes off as if I was wishing for a death to happen every week. No one wants a death but I can't deny what those deaths did for the sport nor that now that we haven't had on in a while that it might have led to the decline in the sport.
 
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Good for Chastain. Never been much a fan of the guy but he's worked his ass off this year and deserves better than having a guy that never led a lap get a win. Hope it's overturned and NASCAR also looks at this ignorant DQ field bumping rule.
 
I find it quite laughable that people want NASCAR to return to the "good old days", when from the first, Big Bill made it clear that
the win would be taken away if you broke the rules.
If I remember correctly, it wasn't until the early 60s that you kept the win even if you were found to be illegal.
 
I don't know that anyone is wanting the "good ole days" of NASCAR to return. I'm not when I talk about wins not going to the second place finisher or safety. There is probably a reason they made the change and it will probably come back if this happens at the Cup level.

When the guy who didn't "lead a lap" wins...I'm not upset when the guy is the defending champion! He is a deserving winner and the dq truck is irrelevant because of the violation.
 
No I believe that you have entered a conversation with someone above you narrow mindedness and you can't compute.



No most on here fool themselves into a conversation they can't handle, hence the reason they have to find a cute emoji or whatever. I know it's not a agreeable stance that I choose but yet no one can actually give reason as to why they think it's foolish or insane. They just can't comprehend that their are real people in the world that don't follow the narrative they have.
You're right , I cant comprehend someone that thinks racing is too safe. Your words speak volumes on your value of life compared to your personal enjoyment of a stock car race.
 
I agree with the sentiment that cars were built better back in the day. I'd rather have a tank than a crushed watermelon. I said pre 90's though, been rear-ended by a few modern cars and yeah they fall apart and are essentially totaled.



That's the only one that wasn't factual.
You confuse personal opinion with facts
 
I asked that you keep the personal remarks out of the conversations.
If you want to insult each other, do it OFF the open forum.
 
You're right , I cant comprehend someone that thinks racing is too safe. Your words speak volumes on your value of life compared to your personal enjoyment of a stock car race.

You're not wrong when you speak on how I value death. It's a given to me and I understand we are all going to die eventually so I don't let it effect my views.
 
You confuse personal opinion with facts

No I've said in this thread that most the things I've hit on are subjective. It's a fact though that racing being safer has lead to people tuning out, 2nd place is 2nd place, and today's cars are ****.
 
It's a fact though that racing being safer has lead to people tuning out
Is it?

There are probably a lot of reasons that NASCAR’s attendance and ratings aren’t what they used to be, but I doubt increased safety is real high on the list. And if there were people who were just watching to see if someone would die, I’m glad they’re gone.
 
Is it?

There are probably a lot of reasons that NASCAR’s attendance and ratings aren’t what they used to be, but I doubt increased safety is real high on the list. And if there were people who were just watching to see if someone would die, I’m glad they’re gone.

I agree that it more than just one reason but Im not going to dismiss the danger factor declining. It's not the sole purpose but it's part of it in my opinion.
 
Are you comparing us fans to Roman citizens who have to be entertained by death in the Coliseum? That if we don't get our "blood and circus" we'll leave.
I've NEVER, EVER watched a race hoping to see some blood and gore.

I'm not saying that it's the same as that but we are humans the same as they and danger has always attracted us to things like that.

Not all fans are danger driven but as shown throughout history it's somthing people will flock to because they can't do it themselves. That why I believe these cars being so easy to drive is a bad thing. Big fan of Byron but video gamers shouldn't be able to drive these cars and I hope he's just an anomaly.
 
Lol you can criticize Byron but video gamer thats funny. A lot of the front runners Hamlin, Truex, Keselowski were DMP "video gamers".
 
Lol you can criticize Byron but video gamer thats funny. A lot of the front runners Hamlin, Truex, Keselowski were DMP "video gamers".

They were also in actual cars as kids. I could be wrong but that not what I've come to understand about Byron. It's not a criticism though he's proven himself in my eyes.
 
I never thought I'd see the day where someone was on here not wanting to have the safety we have...just wow.

This is what I'm talking about, you guys can't comprehend that people exist with these views because we are so few and far between on places like this. We don't call for deaths and when someone says it too safe people freak out like that's the case. I'd just rather see NASCAR be a challenge and it's getting to the point it's not it seems.
 
This is what I'm talking about, you guys can't comprehend that people exist with these views because we are so few and far between on places like this. We don't call for deaths and when someone says it too safe people freak out like that's the case. I'd just rather see NASCAR be a challenge and it's getting to the point it's not it seems.

So if it's not a challenge, and anyone can do it....is Kyle Busch not as good as you say he is? Maybe he should go race some place where the racing isn't as safe and can prove himself.
 
So if it's not a challenge, and anyone can do it....is Kyle Busch not as good as you say he is? Maybe he should go race some place where the racing isn't as safe and can prove himself.

He's obviously pretty good as he hasn't dropped off any from the change. The good drivers are going to stay upfront but you can't deny that these cars are now easier to drive.

I'd love to see Kyle try F1 or the Indy 500, hell yeah.
 
He's obviously pretty good as he hasn't dropped off any from the change. The good drivers are going to stay upfront but you can't deny that these cars are now easier to drive.

I'd love to see Kyle try F1 or the Indy 500, hell yeah.

I mean he came in when all the cars were getting "Safe" tho....so I mean who knows maybe he isn't good if he can just drive a safe car. hmmm. ;) I'm just using your own logic man.
 
I mean he came in when all the cars were getting "Safe" tho....so I mean who knows maybe he isn't good if he can just drive a safe car. hmmm. ;) I'm just using your own logic man.

No you are stretching my logic. I never said anything about drivers not being any good. Just that it's clear this year that these cars are a lot easier to drive. Caution trends back that up.
 
I fail to see how "the sport is too safe" comes off as if I was wishing for a death to happen every week. No one wants a death but I can't deny what those deaths did for the sport nor that now that we haven't had on in a while that it might have led to the decline in the sport.

Saying the sport is too safe pretty much means you want people to drop dead. Saying people don't watch because it's too safe is saying people don't watch because people aren't dying.

That is exactly what it means.
 
Cars were safer before this season bruh.

In this instance I said nothing about safety and was speaking on how easy they are to drive this season. Read through the thread again if you need. That does correlate with added safety but it's new this season with the package. The cars have been safe since Kyle joined if you want points for that or something but it has nothing to do with why I'm a fan of his. Everyone is driving by the same standards and the ones that do win happen to be the best drivers.
 
Saying the sport is too safe pretty much means you want people to drop dead. Saying people don't watch because it's too safe is saying people don't watch because people aren't dying.

That is exactly what it means.

If that's not narrow-minded I don't know what is.
 
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