Uh Oh...Cheater cheater pumpkin eater...L1 for the 4 team

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  1. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    I think kb18 is having hallucinations.:eek:
     
  2. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    It is rough to be a TRD/Toyota fan this morning, but it can't be worse than being a 4 fan. You had 2-3 tenths all year. You dominated every damn weekend. They take the spoiler. You lost your 2-3 tenths. You lived a lie. I would be pissed. I really would.
     
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  3. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    not really, after the Joe the weasel manipulated the race for KDB, if it wasn't for a late race caution, he would have been a lap down in the title race. 4th looser. Maybe next year they will let KDB pit in turn one. :p Kyle must have lost his spoiler and more than that.
     
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  4. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Team Owner Contributor


    Very pathetic, nothing worse than a bully that can't perform
     
  5. Nitro Dude

    Nitro Dude Hauler Driver and Cylinder Head Maintenance

    Unless I was watching a different race didn't Harvick lead a lot of laps and finish in front of Busch even with Busch getting the much talked about #1 pit space?:D
     
  6. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    Not sure what the hell all of that has to do with the 4, but okay.
     
  7. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    Anybody know if Rodney got angry drunk with the 4 team since he couldn't celebrate the title?
     
  8. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I'd ask how Joe managed to manipulate Keselowski into Suarez, but I expect I'd only be told I'd figure it out eventually.
     
  9. DIDIT

    DIDIT Old School Fan

    Brake check by Suarez. ;)
     
  10. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    yeah I think I heard NOW on Suarez's radio. Clint was saying is it time to scratch now?
     
  11. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Your assuming he had a spoiler offset the whole season and Nascar wasn't smart enough to find it in the many times the car went for a tear down. I find that is hard to believe.
     
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  12. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    I find that difficult to believe. Wouldn't it have been easier for Suarez to just smack the wall himself? If indeed there was a brake check with the intent of getting hit, there's no guarantee Kez wouldn't have evaded the #19. Occam's Razor.
     
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  13. DUN24

    DUN24 Skeptical of the Spectacle

    Lmfao
     
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  14. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    give it the ol throttle stuck routine. :p we being facetious, I am. Kez hit him racing hard and thought rightly he gave KDB a break which he did. The rest is hard core tin foil territory to make something out of the Suarez deal I would think. Both the 4 and the 18 didn't keep up with the track IMO. And as it is in most races a late race caution produced the passing and the excitement. Nothing wrong with that.
     
  15. sdj

    sdj Just a race fan

    This makes the most sense for sure. :booya:
     
  16. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Team Owner Contributor


    Rumor has it the Rodney beat the bully with that spoiler that wasn't an advantage ..... mean drunk I guess :idunno:
     
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  17. Joker

    Joker #1 Harvick Fan

    Harvick moving Kyle Busch at New Hampshire? A win.

    Harvick living rent-free in the minds of his fans? Priceless.
     
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  18. DaBiff1618

    DaBiff1618 Team Owner

    As big of a no show the 18 was this weekend should you really be sh!t talking Harvick...Toyota sh!t itself this weekend and couldn't even provide a quality piece for one of the most talented drivers ever. The 4 on the other hand had the championship won if Suarez didn't do Suarez things
     
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  19. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Team Owner Contributor


    Joey winning the cup ?
     
  20. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Team Owner Contributor



    Brad wrecked the 19 ... or so it looked to me. The only guy that had the cup won was Joey
     
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  21. Joker

    Joker #1 Harvick Fan

    Non sequitur ?
     
  22. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Team Owner Contributor


    correct answer was === precious
     
  23. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Priceless and well earned.
     
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  24. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    Not really hard to believe. NASCAR had their hands on Delana's wife's OSS. Got lazy. Spoiler offset sounds so much more innocent BTW.
     
  25. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    That's bull****. Delana's wife was only slightly better than KB. It was apparent that this was either going to be the 22 or the 78. TRD gave the 78 a a quality piece. JGR messed it up. Pure and simple. Doesn't take much of a conspiracy theorist to know that Delana's wife's car was dirty all year. No question in my mind. Good for them, but to deny it is silly. Two wins encumbered, and your crew chief jettisoned for the big show. C'mon man.
     
  26. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    To think that the 4 car was the only one is pure fantasy in my book. Did they do it more and better than everybody else? who knows. A person can claim it to be so, but looking at what SHR did, which is hard to do with this current points system their 4 car team was the best out there.They were just flat good. They Yotas weren't that good, and the Chevy's have their work cut out for them.
     
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  27. Wrangler1

    Wrangler1 Team Owner

    The 4 v. 18 debate is simple in this case. The 4 brought their B team after getting busted and was still a factor all race. The 18 whiffed on the setup and the driver was in the way on the final restart.

    Either way, one cheated, one didn't. Both lost. That last part is what matters.
     
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  28. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Pretending that there weren't three cars, including one Penske and one JGR, that failed TMS teardown. :dunce:
     
  29. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    they only tore down the winning car's motor. Moot point to tear down the rest of them.
     
  30. rd45usa

    rd45usa Days gone past

  31. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  32. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    The margin between the 4 and Kyle was a consistent 2 tenths all year....and then ordinary....even on arguably Kyle's worst race. Boggles the mind what the season might have looked like had the 4 been legal.

    With regard to pointing fingers to teams that didn't get caught....Where does it end? You want an inspection system that is infallible, but are prepared to point the fingers all around when it isn't. You have yourself covered. You know exactly what you would be saying if that spoiler was on Kyle's car.
     
  33. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    ain't none of them legal, that is a fairy tale. The inspection system will never get all of it, but it keeps it to a dull roar. that is my take, always has been. they quietly threw out KDB and Suarez's front end this year. All of em do it, some get caught after the fact, some before, it is racing, always has been that way. Jones who they were touting about his burst of speed towards the end of the season? they caught them letting air out of the car with a loose panel.
     
  34. Cappy

    Cappy Spectator

    Toyota may have missed on a few set ups but you're sadly mistaken if you think Harvick would have won if the race stayed green. The 4 and 22 did pull away from the field but after quite a few laps the 78 was reeling them in and rather quickly. Took him no time to get around the 22 when he caught him and would have done the same to the 4 car when he caught up in a few more laps. The 78 was great on long runs but not on the short ones. Regardless of the outcome, I'm just glad cheating Harvick didn't win. Most push the limit and search for all they can and sometimes overstep but at least they don't manufacturer parts which is blatant cheating . They should have given him a L2 penalty and the max 75 point deduction which would have put Elliott in the chase. Personally he should have been disqualified from the final race.....period.
     
  35. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    are you freaking kidding me? all of them manufacture illegal parts. What do you think those things are that allow the rear end to twist? Side panels to bow? Doors to cave in, and windows to dip and fans that run backwards to name a few.
     
  36. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Oooh, I missed that one! Are we talking about radiator cooling fans that pull the air through instead of pushing it, reducing the forward air resistance?
     
  37. Cappy

    Cappy Spectator

    Interesting you say that since I've never heard on anyone else being caught making their own unapproved parts. But then again maybe I've missed that. Either way he cheated, got caught and glad as he didn't win. Hope Nascar cracks down harder next year on cheaters regardless of who theyare.
     
  38. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    The yoters last year had fans under the car that ran backwards for more downforce. Larson's car got caught with tubes on the inside venting air instead of the brakes. The list goes on and on.
     
  39. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    here's one there are many others
    Joey Logano's win at Richmond encumbered after unapproved rear suspension found
    http://www.sportingnews.com/us/nasc...ar-suspension-found/38vzt0s19q7h1rkp5le9ef1gk
     
  40. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    KB was fast after the front end. Jones and Suarez are too inconsistent to provide a viable baseline. Delana's wife's issue really pissed NASCAR off too. There's that. The OSS is a very expensive "dull roar" instrument. ....and we are talking about two encumbered wins, and a crew chief jettisoned at the moment of truth. What Delana ordered was not what everybody else was doing....except the other SHR cars. Had the 4 won, this bull**** would be the talk of the offseason. Would make Kyle's "vacation" not that big of a deal.
     

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