I have to tell you that I am sick and tired is listening to those who want to bitch about what happens when the Next Gen gets a flat tire. Who the **** cares? You don't build a race car to make it manageable when it has a flat.
It slows the race down even more and creates additional caution opportunities. Both of those are a negative resultI have to tell you that I am sick and tired is listening to those who want to bitch about what happens when the Next Gen gets a flat tire. Who the **** cares? You don't build a race car to make it manageable when it has a flat.
No issues really, the flat tire issue will be resolved in due time. There is no immediate remedy for it at the moment
KB hasn't been happy since COVID killed multiple hours of practice. This "Get in and go' doesn't work for him. As you noted, Denny is winning. Maybe the #18 team has been so dependent on practice for set-ups that they've become slack about getting the car as close as possible before it leaves the shop? Or maybe their notes just aren't complete, don't provide enough info to set the car up? Whatever reason, this new car may cause them more growing pains than some other teams.Cool. Thanks for being candid. So, here is the thing on that--just my two cents as well. Jeff Curtis (aka Jazzy) is big on sim development, and when FRR was absorbed by JGR, he went to Ganassi. Big loss. When Pearn bailed, and Small took over, he went out and got Jazzy back. Big gain. KB has bitched about the sim, but I am not sure that the sim is the issue so much as his interpretation of the sim is. He wants the seat time, and resents this new direction. While Kyle was bitching, Denny was winning, so I am not sure that the sim is the issue. TRD Salisbury is dedicated to the chassis and sim development. They have the resources (to your point), and I think they are fine in that area. I am not sure what the hell went on in race prep for Sunday, but next week has me very, very concerned. Love this.
It makes the cautions longer while the tow truck is dispatched, hooks the car up, and drags it back; driving the car back is faster and may not even require a caution. Longer cautions equals less racing. If it wasn't for that, I probably wouldn't care.I have to tell you that I am sick and tired is listening to those who want to bitch about what happens when the Next Gen gets a flat tire. Who the **** cares? You don't build a race car to make it manageable when it has a flat.
Go back to 15" wheels with inner liners. I don't expect it, though.There is no immediate remedy for it at the moment,
I'm not worried about caution length, I'm worried about actual cautions. IMO with this new car any worn out surface will need immediate repavingDid you see P&Q? 10 cautions (not counting stage breaks) was LESS than I anticipated. Most of them were single car. If NASCAR will solve the flat tire problem so a tow truck isn't needed, the length of the cautions will be shorter.
An inner liner cannot fit, I was thinking run-flats. However, at 190 mph and it would need a tougher sidewall or maybe a harder compound tire. I'm not sure, but I think Goodyear could really consider something to stop the issue of the car sitting on the rub blocks when a tire goes down.That's what I don't understand. They had to have known this would be an issue, right? All of this was by design. An 18" wheel to clear the bigger brakes obviously means a lower profile sidewall. Someone made the decision that inner liners wouldn't be necessary, and I can't figure out the logic behind that. I also don't understand how a company that developed the low profile runflat tire 30 years ago can't apply a similar concept to their low profile racing slick.
I find it hard to believe they just overlooked something like this. There has to be an explanation, but I'm not smart enough to figure it out. Regardless, if this is the biggest problem we're seeing with the new car (other than the parts shortage) I would call that a win.
Then that defeats the purpose of the 18" wheel and then it changes the dynamics of the car as well.Go back to 15" wheels with inner liners. I don't expect it, though.
An inner liner cannot fit, I was thinking run-flats. However, at 190 mph and it would need a tougher sidewall or maybe a harder compound tire. I'm not sure, but I think Goodyear could really consider something to stop the issue of the car sitting on the rub blocks when a tire goes down.
It should..but I think it's reasonable to make the claim that the gen 6 car was a broken product. NASCAR tried to compensate by throwing all these different packages at it.I don't know....It's always been NASCAR. The sport has ebbed and flowed in reaction to an unprecedented flood of information and technology. Never been one to advocate "good racing" as that is probably different for many. Appreciate what you see understanding that it will likely change. Constantly evolving....and it should.
I was wondering myself. They said the diffuser is the part that they are getting the bulk of their down force from. Why have the rub blocks that seems to be keeping the cars from moving on a flat if the diffuser limits how low the cars can go?If I'm not mistaken, inner liners were not ran at every track in the past.
We've all seen cars make it back to pit road on just a wheel and no tire.
Theoretically those cars of the past would've been 1.5 inches LOWER than what we've seen recently.
I don't think the problem lies with the lack of an inner liner.
Guaranteed they are working on it as we speak.
The rub blocks are there to protect the diffuser, so they are actually the lowest point on the chassis.I was wondering myself. They said the diffuser is the part that they are getting the bulk of their down force from. Why have the rub blocks that seems to be keeping the cars from moving on a flat if the diffuser limits how low the cars can go?
Rollers.The rub blocks are there to protect the diffuser, so they are actually the lowest point on the chassis.
My guess is that work will be done on rub block material and/or shape to find something that may not lock up so tightly on the track once contact is made.
Don't thinks so, the rub blocks are there to enforce height requirements. They may protect the diffuser, but the way they have designed the splitter up front with the edges being lower than the center, the splitter and the diffuser could be used to limit ride heights.The rub blocks are there to protect the diffuser, so they are actually the lowest point on the chassis.
My guess is that work will be done on rub block material and/or shape to find something that may not lock up so tightly on the track once contact is made.
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If I'm not mistaken, inner liners were not ran at every track in the past.
We've all seen cars make it back to pit road on just a wheel and no tire.
Theoretically those cars of the past would've been 1.5 inches LOWER than what we've seen recently.
I don't think the problem lies with the lack of an inner liner.
Guaranteed they are working on it as we speak.
Because, how many times has a car that had a flat tire get back in the race with a reasonable amount of chance to still win? Believe it has been quite often over the last seventy three years.I have to tell you that I am sick and tired is listening to those who want to bitch about what happens when the Next Gen gets a flat tire. Who the **** cares? You don't build a race car to make it manageable when it has a flat.
I think Hemric and a few others will agree with yaI have to tell you that I am sick and tired is listening to those who want to bitch about what happens when the Next Gen gets a flat tire. Who the **** cares? You don't build a race car to make it manageable when it has a flat.
I think Hemric and a few others will agree with ya
not soHemric was an exception, and extreme exception. Others, not so much
Does screwing it on come under the 6-minute clock?
Okay, I thought the only purpose of the 18" wheel was to look cool. If I'm wrong, please enlighten me.that defeats the purpose of the 18" wheel
I'm for limiting the teams to 4 cans of fix a flat. The green slime is outlawed...not a sponsor.Does screwing it on come under the 6-minute clock?
I wish it was easy to make the change, bolt on last years tires and wheels. I don't see much happening soon if at all. Damn fun races to watch this year so far IMO. Looking forward to the 1.5 at Vegas.Okay, I thought the only purpose of the 18" wheel was to look cool. If I'm wrong, please enlighten me.