'21 Generation 7 Car news

Mispeedway15 said:
Nah just in the designs, can still be performance metals and stuff like that. Hell was it 3 years ago Gibbs won half the races and put 3 in the title lol?
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Which was a result of them getting a new nose. Which was immediately followed by the Camaro getting a new nose. Same old same old. I'm still not clear on what fans want. They just want SOMETHING different.
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Ford already released that

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Lots of trunk room up front.
 
SpeedPagan said:
No love for the Toyota Yaris?



Supra goes to CUP and the GR86 to Xfinity?
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Toyota is no longer selling the Yaris here, so no reason for them to run that name plate.

I really like the Surpa to Cup and 86 to Xfinity idea.
 
KTMLew01 said:
Want do you want? Off the assembly line factory sheet metal? Is so see my post a couple above this.
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I never said what I wanted.

What I said meant the cars the three manufacturers will field in 2022 will look much more like each other than what any of them put on the street. That includes the Mustang in Ford's announcement above. I expect that other than the logos, grill decals, and C-pillar shape, the body lines of all three brands' Cup cars will be identical. If the branding is removed, no casual onlooker or even sports car aficionados could guess what makes and models they pretend to be.

I'm not saying that's good or bad, just what I think we'll see when they roll them out. There's no pessimism about the cars, just contempt for Ford's press release. I don't expect any better from Toyota or Chevy's PR flacks either.
 
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Charlie Spencer said:
I never said what I wanted.

What I said meant the cars the three manufacturers will field in 2022 will look much more like each other than what any of them put on the street. That includes the Mustang in Ford's announcement above. I expect that other than the logos, grill decals, and C-pillar shape, the body lines of all three brands' Cup cars will be identical. If the branding is removed, no casual onlooker or even sports car aficionados could guess what makes and models they pretend to be.

I'm not saying that's good or bad, just what I think we'll see when they roll them out. There's no pessimism about the cars, just contempt for Ford's press release. I don't expect any better from Toyota or Chevy's PR flacks either.
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So, if my reading comprehension hasn't failed me, you want the cars to replicate the production sheet metal. You want all makes to have different body lines/shapes. Which will result in what I mentioned earlier. One make will dominate and some will be screaming about said domination. I'd rather they do exactly as you suggest they will and just go IROC and make all the cars the same. Feature the drivers. WE get ZERO info about technical info about the cars now. They pretty much quit sharing info 10-15 years ago. The whole idea of Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday, is an idea that's time has passed. Nobody cares. But I am also completely over Oval racing. Just don't find it interesting. The body shape has more influence at Oval tracks where speeds are absurd. YMMV.
 
KTMLew01 said:
So, if my reading comprehension hasn't failed me, you want the cars to replicate the production sheet metal.
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It's failed you. I'm commenting only on the manufacturers' PR pretending we don't know these aren't Mustangs, etc.

There's no hidden message; you can quit spinning this.
 
KTMLew01 said:
So, if my reading comprehension hasn't failed me, you want the cars to replicate the production sheet metal. You want all makes to have different body lines/shapes. Which will result in what I mentioned earlier. One make will dominate and some will be screaming about said domination. I'd rather they do exactly as you suggest they will and just go IROC and make all the cars the same. Feature the drivers. WE get ZERO info about technical info about the cars now. They pretty much quit sharing info 10-15 years ago. The whole idea of Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday, is an idea that's time has passed. Nobody cares. But I am also completely over Oval racing. Just don't find it interesting. The body shape has more influence at Oval tracks where speeds are absurd. YMMV.
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I call bullsh*t. Sorry but if IMSA can have super competitive racing in GTLM with different shaped cars, NASCAR can as well
 
Mispeedway15 said:
I call bullsh*t. Sorry but if IMSA can have super competitive racing in GTLM with different shaped cars, NASCAR can as well
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If NASCAR wants Cup to become a road and street course series, yes. On an oval, a body that is half a tenth better will render other cars obsolete. On a road course, the drivers are gaining and losing several tenths a lap on skill and circumstance, and inherent aero advantages are less imposing and easier to BoP away.
 
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Charlie Spencer said:
I never said what I wanted.

What I said meant the cars the three manufacturers will field in 2022 will look much more like each other than what any of them put on the street. That includes the Mustang in Ford's announcement above. I expect that other than the logos, grill decals, and C-pillar shape, the body lines of all three brands' Cup cars will be identical. If the branding is removed, no casual onlooker or even sports car aficionados could guess what makes and models they pretend to be.

I'm not saying that's good or bad, just what I think we'll see when they roll them out. There's no pessimism about the cars, just contempt for Ford's press release. I don't expect any better from Toyota or Chevy's PR flacks either.
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Big Mike would beg to differ...
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Charlie Spencer said:
What have you seen for the last 15 years that leads you to think otherwise?
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Dude at least see what all three cars look like fully revealed first. The point with the next gen car is that NASCAR is turning the corner. They know that fans and manufacturers want more distinction between the cars so that's the main point of this. Getting disappointed this early is ridiculous.
 
I'm not an every day poster and I'm not sure where to ask this, but where is standonit? I don't think I've ever logged in here and not seen him commenting on about every thread. I hope everything's ok and I've probably just missed something.
 
Switchback said:
I'm not an every day poster and I'm not sure where to ask this, but where is standonit? I don't think I've ever logged in here and not seen him commenting on about every thread. I hope everything's ok and I've probably just missed something.
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Probably (hopefully) just out standing on it somewhere.
 
Switchback said:
I'm not an every day poster and I'm not sure where to ask this, but where is standonit? I don't think I've ever logged in here and not seen him commenting on about every thread. I hope everything's ok and I've probably just missed something.
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It’s been 10 days ... he lives on the forum.
 
Switchback said:
I'm not an every day poster and I'm not sure where to ask this, but where is standonit? I don't think I've ever logged in here and not seen him commenting on about every thread. I hope everything's ok and I've probably just missed something.
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His profile now says that he was last here yesterday.

Paging @StandOnIt
 
I'm sure that the tagline "Rebirth of stock" is nothing more than a marketing ploy. However, I will be pleasantly surprised if they actually do something to bring the race cars closer to their street counterparts.
 
SpeedPagan said:
I'm sure that the tagline "Rebirth of stock" is nothing more than a marketing ploy. However, I will be pleasantly surprised if they actually do something to bring the race cars closer to their street counterparts.
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Those silhouettes look pretty similar to me. Maybe someone would like to take a guess which one is which?

From left to right, Audi, Honda, VW.
 
DewChaser988 said:
The point was the cars are supposed to be more industry relevant.. Which is what stock car racing should be

There's even talk of moving to hybrid engines, which NASCAR should have done 6-10 years ago
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I'm okay with that because it would bring a lack of reliability back into the sport
 
Does anyone know if they’re changing to clamp-on refueling too? I’ve seen a few passive mentions of it recently, I would’ve thought they’d make a bigger deal of it if that were the case like with the tires/wheels.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Those silhouettes look pretty similar to me. Maybe someone would like to take a guess which one is which?

From left to right, Audi, Honda, VW.
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Five bucks says that photo was photoshopped. It'd be easier to clone stamp one car two more times on a computer than to line up three cars.
 
So it looks like the Camaro and Camry are virtually unchanged. They might be going with the 1LE nose instead of the ZL1. Although the Mustang looks like it’s going to have a redesign, which is sorely needed. My guess is the GT500.

 
ChexOrWrex said:
So it looks like the Camaro and Camry are virtually unchanged. They might be going with the 1LE nose instead of the ZL1. Although the Mustang looks like it’s going to have a redesign, which is sorely needed. My guess is the GT500.

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I was hoping for a fourth car under wraps:
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FLRacingFan said:
That looks like a wicked makeover from the Gen 6 Mustang if legit.

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Yooooooo nice leak. RIP someone’s job.

With previous Gen cars, there was an obvious difference / upgrade in body style across the board. With these, it’s almost unnoticeable until you get up close. I think a lot of fans are going to be massively underwhelmed with so much hype behind the release.
 
I gotta say, I like the bodies of the supposed leaked photograph. Looks like super late models!
 
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