As of Nov17 Patrick meets with CGR

I wonder what would happen if she won this thing.....

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Mr Excitement said:
So do you think this will be a competitive ride @Charlie Spencer or anyone else?
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I'm pleased to see she could line up a sponsor and a car.

Premium doesn't meet my definition of competitive, but it's a team of the caliber I expected her to wind up in. Others have pointed out being 'competitive' at a plate race doesn't take much, a point I did overlook.

Do YOU think this will be a competitive ride?

EDIT: I expect an 'All Star' pit crew will turn in stops well over the 14 second mark and she'll lose the draft.
 
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Speedbowl14 said:
Unless her pit crew can get stops under 13 seconds she doesn't stand a chance.
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I disagree, this is not a short track race. She could go in with the lead come out mid pack and be up front in a few laps. Y'all forget Derrick Cope was running second when DE blew a tire.
 
Team Penske said:
I disagree, this is not a short track race. She could go in with the lead come out mid pack and be up front in a few laps. Y'all forget Derrick Cope was running second when DE blew a tire.
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That makes it more imperative, imo. With these superspeedways they come down pit road tight as can be under green and under caution. Come down in front and have a 15 second stop and you'll be at the back because there's so little gap between cars.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
I'm pleased to see she could line up a sponsor and a car.

Premium doesn't meet my definition of competitive, but it's a team of the caliber I expected her to wind up in. Others have pointed out being 'competitive' at a plate race doesn't take much, a point I did overlook.

Do YOU think this will be a competitive ride?

EDIT: I expect an 'All Star' pit crew will turn in stops well over the 14 second mark and she'll lose the draft.
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Childress chassis, ECR engine, engineering support from Childress, Eury on the box and I suspect will be hands-on putting the car together has me pretty friggin stoked. What I'm concerned about is the body of the car and if they will be able to get wind tunnel time.Sounds like the pit crew will be fine.
 
aunty dive said:
It’ll be a decent piece.

Contrary to popular opinion, the driver matters at these places. She’s done enough plate races to put in a good performance. The rest is up to racing luck.
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And her luck at plate tracks has been dismal.Seriously, she got taken out by a brake rotor while running top 10 with I think was around 20 laps to go at the 400 last year.:eek:
 
Mr Excitement said:
Childress chassis, ECR engine, engineering support from Childress, Eury on the box and I suspect will be hands-on putting the car together has me pretty friggin stoked. What I'm concerned about is the body of the car and if they will be able to get wind tunnel time.Sounds like the pit crew will be fine.
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Seems like a simple change of wrap to an already built RCR car. They build cars for the clash. I'd bet each driver has three cars built before the Clash runs. Just grab one of them.
 
Mr Excitement said:
And her luck at plate tracks has been dismal.Seriously, she got taken out by a brake rotor while running top 10 with I think was around 20 laps to go at the 400 last year.:eek:
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Her LR seems to have a target on it. How many times has she pounded the inside wall at plate tracks? 8-10 times? All I want to see is her to finish both races healthy. Bye bye. Go show us some new yoga poses.
 
KTMLew01 said:
Seems like a simple change of wrap to an already built RCR car. They build cars for the clash. I'd bet each driver has three cars built before the Clash runs. Just grab one of them.
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Makes sense. Man, I hope they run the Clash.
 
I want to attempt to ask this in a noncombative way. I'm not a Danica hater, and I'm not a fan either. I'd like to think I am a Danica realist, though one who is sincerely enthused by the prospect of competitive women drivers at the top levels of racing.

Luck swings both ways, generally, over time. If one endeavors at something long enough, there are days when one can't catch a break and others when the wind is at one's back. I see so many defensive references to Danica's terrible luck. It makes me wonder where and when she has experienced good luck. If for instance her results at all plate races ever are worse than her true performance, where has she been fortunate that the results were better than her performance? You can't credibly factor for one without considering the other.
 
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gnomesayin said:
I want to attempt to ask this in a noncombative way. I'm not a Danica hater, and I'm not a fan either. I'd like to think I am a Danica realist, though one who is sincerely enthused by the prospect of competitive women drivers at the top levels of racing.

Luck swings both ways, generally, over time. If one endeavors at something long enough, there are days when one can't catch a break and others when the wind is at one's back. I see so many defensive references to Danica's terrible luck. It makes me wonder where and when she has experienced good luck. If for instance her results at all plate races ever are worse than her true performance, where has she been fortunate that the results were better than her performance? You can't credibly factor for one without considering the other.
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During races I have seen Danica Patrick's team have some good luck with getting laps back but I don't have stats to post about it. This is just an opinion of one guy but I would say Danica Patrick and any other driver have had good luck anytime they was able to get laps back from the lucky dog and wave around thing. Maybe that isn't luck and just racing but getting laps back from cautions or not losing them because of them seems like good luck to this guy.
 
gnomesayin said:
I want to attempt to ask this in a noncombative way. I'm not a Danica hater, and I'm not a fan either. I'd like to think I am a Danica realist, though one who is sincerely enthused by the prospect of competitive women drivers at the top levels of racing.

Luck swings both ways, generally, over time. If one endeavors at something long enough, there are days when one can't catch a break and others when the wind is at one's back. I see so many defensive references to Danica's terrible luck. It makes me wonder where and when she has experienced good luck. If for instance her results at all plate races ever are worse than her true performance, where has she been fortunate that the results were better than her performance? You can't credibly factor for one without considering the other.
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Well NASCAR used to throw debris cautions on purpose to keep her from going a lap down. I guess you can call that luck.:sarcasm: :lol2:
 
A lot of people in here taking things extremely literal.

I agree regarding the false narrative about Danica having a major impact on the fan base of the sport. She didn't increase viewership for anything more then a couple races. Are there new fans that are Danica fans? Yes. Were they new to auto racing? Maybe. Did these people, males and females, boys and girls wake up one day and decide because Danica was now in NASCAR that they were going to be NASCAR fans? Highly unlikely. I would be willing to bet that 99% of Danica's fans were either fans of her in Indy Car (Mr. Excitement), were looking for a new driver to affiliate with (Again Mr.Excitement) or were introduced to the sport by their Mother or Father and latched on to Danica. Primarily for the little girls, they see a woman driver. Not just a woman driver, the only woman driver. Immediately it becomes relatable to them and she becomes their favorite. So did she create new fans? I would say at the very least it is debatable because a lot of her fan base were introduced by someone else. They didn't tune in just because Danica was this big media firestorm. At least not for any extended time frame.

She was good for the sport for a small period of time when she first came in. People were interested in if she could do it. Then she didn't and it was over before it even really got going. Now here we are in the same place we were when she started. The media was mostly NASCAR media, she didn't reach out to a base that was not already somehow affiliated with NASCAR and I would be willing to bet that less then 10% of her fan base are here once she is gone and that is fine, but I think her long term effect on the sport is irrelevant.

For the record, she is not in a good ride. That narrative needs to stop too. She will be a middle of the pack driver as she is in most every race she was in and I will predict she is out by mid point of the race.

From someone else's mess of course.
 
Breakup doesn’t change how Ricky Stenhouse Jr. will race Danica Patrick at Daytona 500

https://www.sbnation.com/nascar/201...jr-danica-patrick-breakup-daytona-500?src=rss

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clarkfn2284 said:
A lot of people in here taking things extremely literal.

I agree regarding the false narrative about Danica having a major impact on the fan base of the sport. She didn't increase viewership for anything more then a couple races. Are there new fans that are Danica fans? Yes. Were they new to auto racing? Maybe. Did these people, males and females, boys and girls wake up one day and decide because Danica was now in NASCAR that they were going to be NASCAR fans? Highly unlikely. I would be willing to bet that 99% of Danica's fans were either fans of her in Indy Car (Mr. Excitement), were looking for a new driver to affiliate with (Again Mr.Excitement) or were introduced to the sport by their Mother or Father and latched on to Danica. Primarily for the little girls, they see a woman driver. Not just a woman driver, the only woman driver. Immediately it becomes relatable to them and she becomes their favorite. So did she create new fans? I would say at the very least it is debatable because a lot of her fan base were introduced by someone else. They didn't tune in just because Danica was this big media firestorm. At least not for any extended time frame.

She was good for the sport for a small period of time when she first came in. People were interested in if she could do it. Then she didn't and it was over before it even really got going. Now here we are in the same place we were when she started. The media was mostly NASCAR media, she didn't reach out to a base that was not already somehow affiliated with NASCAR and I would be willing to bet that less then 10% of her fan base are here once she is gone and that is fine, but I think her long term effect on the sport is irrelevant.

For the record, she is not in a good ride. That narrative needs to stop too. She will be a middle of the pack driver as she is in most every race she was in and I will predict she is out by mid point of the race.

From someone else's mess of course.
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There's a woman in my friend group who went to a NASCAR race with the guys and me last year and latched onto Danica because she was the only woman in the field. Her second choice was Ryan Blaney because she found him attractive.

I think she'll manage just fine.
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Did I miss that in the coverage, or are you assuming?

RCR car, ECR engine, RCR crew; why didn't Richard just take the money and cut out the middleman?
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RCR has only 2 charters now with them leasing or selling the 27's to another team, and I'm betting Danica and GoDaddy wanted to be locked in so that's why "Premium Motorsports" is part of the deal.
 
HARVICK SAYS DANICA STARTED STOCK CAR CAREER AT A DISADVANTAGE


"You know, this is a conversation that I had with her," Harvick said. "I had 20 years on her when she started in a stock car. That is experience, and the things that come with that, you are never going to make up that ground. As long as I'm still racing, I'm going to be 20 years ahead regardless. I think it never is going to be easy to go from (IndyCars to NASCAR) if you are going to be at the top level of that sport for a long time because the cars are...

"I have never driven an IndyCar, but based on everything I've heard, the characteristics and how you drive them are 180-degrees different. It has been very hard for a lot of the open-wheel guys to come over here and drive these (3,300-pound) cars. It's the total opposite of everything they have been taught their whole lives.

In Harvick's opinion, the career path a driver chooses at an early age is a good predictor of performance in the respective disciplines.

"A lot of the kids we have coming up through our ranks now have been in stock cars since they were 12 or 13 years old," said the 2014 series champion. "It's much different. I think you have to pick a path. If you want to race open-wheel cars and do those things, it's probably going to be carts and into an open wheel series.

"There are very few people that have been able to do them both. Tony Stewart and (Juan Pablo) Montoya have done it the best in my opinion. Might be somebody else I am missing. But there have been a lot that have tried."

http://www.espn.com/jayski/cup/2018/story/_/id/22192362/tuesday-media-tour-notebook
 
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