Edwards will not be suspended

But it did, and there is. There's a big difference between what Dale Sr. used to do and what Carl tried to do. And in the interview, Carl as much admitted that he went out to deliberately cost him his chance at a good finish. I don't care what was done, there's never any place for that at 190mph. If Carl felt he needed to be taught a lesson, he needed to wait until after the race, meet him in a bar somewhere and beat the **** outta him there.

As it is, I'd not object to seeing legal action on this one.
 
Jimmy Spencer. perhaps predictably, is 100% in Edwards' court. He took the "this the big leagues" tack by saying that was the only way that Keslowski was going to learn to respect the veterans in the series.
 
Series rookies, especially at this level, shouldn't be making any kind of demands four races into the season.
 
My problem with what Edwards did was the fact the BK was running top 5 or 6 and was having a good race. He should have waited until Bristol to get him back. But that would have caused a bigger mess.

Considering it was intential and Edwards tried punting him for 2 or 3 laps, I say he should be suspended for a race.
 
Let's see, the guy just got punted upside down, sideways into the outside wall at about a 180 mph, I think I see where he's coming from.
 
MRM said:
My problem with what Edwards did was the fact the BK was running top 5 or 6 and was having a good race.
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i think carl took that into account. revenge is best when it costs dearly.
 
get em

Someone needs to get brad one of these:
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Thinking Na$car might come down heavier on him for heading down pit road the wrong way.
 
Did anyone catch some of the replays of the race where they showed Carl trying to take out Brad somewhere between Carl's wreck and Brad's wreck?

There was one point where Carl tried to take him out and he missed.

At that point, Nascar should have issued a warning to Edwards or had him parked. It was and even more obvious attempt to wreck Keslowski than the final act.

Does anyone know if Nascar issued a warning to Edwards at that time? I had to leave the house and did not see that part of the race.

If they didn't warn him, why not? And doesn't Nascar bear some responsibility for not issuing a warning?

Just trying to get some opinions here.
 
The problem I have with the whole deal is that Edwards caused the first wreck too. There was no reason for payback because he took himself out.
 
PettyBlue said:
Series rookies, especially at this level, shouldn't be making any kind of demands four races into the season.
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You got that right. Of course kez is a little bit of a crybaby while he brags that he is an aggreessive driver and will not change because he is in Cup. He still has lessons to be learned. Perhaps he should spend a couple more years in the minors.
 
Guido said:
Did anyone catch some of the replays of the race where they showed Carl trying to take out Brad somewhere between Carl's wreck and Brad's wreck?

There was one point where Carl tried to take him out and he missed.

At that point, Nascar should have issued a warning to Edwards or had him parked. It was and even more obvious attempt to wreck Keslowski than the final act.

Does anyone know if Nascar issued a warning to Edwards at that time? I had to leave the house and did not see that part of the race.

If they didn't warn him, why not? And doesn't Nascar bear some responsibility for not issuing a warning?

Just trying to get some opinions here.
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Nascar wants someone to die.It's good for the ratings.They think.
 
It was a racing deal. Nascar will fine carl 50 points and put him on probation.

There is absolutely no way they can sit him down for Bristol.
 
muggle not said:
You got that right. Of course kez is a little bit of a crybaby while he brags that he is an aggreessive driver and will not change because he is in Cup. He still has lessons to be learned. Perhaps he should spend a couple more years in the minors.
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YeaI guess these rookies should just pull over and let those all-knowing great veterans by.
 
mike honcho said:
YeaI guess these rookies should just pull over and let those all-knowing great veterans by.
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Quote from JPM:

“I'm sure a lot of people wanted to pay him back,” second-place finisher Juan Pablo Montoya said of Keselowski, with whom he tangled last year. “Looking at the TV, somebody did.”
 
mike honcho said:
YeaI guess these rookies should just pull over and let those all-knowing great veterans by.
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They are only racing him they way he races them. Part of the technical skill of racing in not barreling your way balls to the wall through the field, but knowing where and when to pass cleanly. Sure Edwards came down this time, but how many times has Brad ping ponged his way through a field? He had obvious talent, but herein lies my rub with the guy: Race cleanly. I want to be the first person cheering him on and I did until the latter part of last season. He races dirty and dirty happened to him.
 
Guido said:
Did anyone catch some of the replays of the race where they showed Carl trying to take out Brad somewhere between Carl's wreck and Brad's wreck?

There was one point where Carl tried to take him out and he missed.

At that point, Nascar should have issued a warning to Edwards or had him parked. It was and even more obvious attempt to wreck Keslowski than the final act.

Does anyone know if Nascar issued a warning to Edwards at that time? I had to leave the house and did not see that part of the race.

If they didn't warn him, why not? And doesn't Nascar bear some responsibility for not issuing a warning?

Just trying to get some opinions here.
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That was from the lap before he finally got to him according to FOX.
 
muggle not said:
It was a racing deal. Nascar will fine carl 50 points and put him on probation.

There is absolutely no way they can sit him down for Bristol.
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....and if they do it will be worse of a PR move than the actual incident.
 
PettyBlue said:
Jimmy Spencer. perhaps predictably, is 100% in Edwards' court. He took the "this the big leagues" tack by saying that was the only way that Keslowski was going to learn to respect the veterans in the series.
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I agree with Spencer????? What is this world coming to???? :eek:
 
carsntunes said:
They are only racing him they way he races them. Part of the technical skill of racing in not barreling your way balls to the wall through the field, but knowing where and when to pass cleanly. Sure Edwards came down this time, but how many times has Brad ping ponged his way through a field? He had obvious talent, but herein lies my rub with the guy: Race cleanly. I want to be the first person cheering him on and I did until the latter part of last season. He races dirty and dirty happened to him.
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???????? You say race cleanly.Then say sure Edwards came down on him this time and didn't race clean.????????????????????????and so since Edwards caused the original wreck and the one last year with Kes it still warranted the retaliation wreck.Well with that reasoning then I guess Carl has got alot of payback coming.
 
muggle not said:
It was a racing deal. Nascar will fine carl 50 points and put him on probation.

There is absolutely no way they can sit him down for Bristol.
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I'd let him race bristol, but i'd dock him 195 points. The equivelant of missing a race. I'd probably make him start back at Zero points. He'll have no choice but to do the right thing if he wants back in the top 35 before the end of the year.
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mike honcho said:
???????? You say race cleanly.Then say sure Edwards came down on him this time and didn't race clean.????????????????????????and so since Edwards caused the original wreck and the one last year with Kes it still warranted the retaliation wreck.Well with that reasoning then I guess Carl has got alot of payback coming.
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This hasn't been the only race that Brad has raced, has it? NO. This has been brewing for the better part of a year.
 
I think what hes saying is every tie up between Edwards and Keselowski was just Edwards A)trying to force Keselowski into a mistake at Dega and B)Coming down and then getting loose, both incidental, neither intentional on Keselowski's part, and neither really his fault, so if someone is paying Keselowski back...it shouldn't of been Edwards.
 
Spike said:
I think what hes saying is every tie up between Edwards and Keselowski was just Edwards A)trying to force Keselowski into a mistake at Dega and B)Coming down and then getting loose, both incidental, neither intentional on Keselowski's part, and neither really his fault, so if someone is paying Keselowski back...it shouldn't of been Edwards.
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Yes Thank You Spike:beerbang:
 
Okay I get it! You're thinking if Denny Hamlin did it it would have made more sense.
 
Edwards gets 3 race probation ONLY

The uneducated hillbillies who run NASCAR just made themselves look more uneducated....I followed this sport for almost 25 years...and today is the most comical day ive witnessed...........
 
http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/cup/news/story?id=4979018

The Associated Press is reporting that Carl Edwards will not be suspended for causing the crash with Brad Keselowski. He could still face a fine, lose points, and probation, but NASCAR will not suspend him.

For my part, I think this is the right choice. As stupid as Edwards was for trying to cause a crash with 3 laps to go, and on the fastest part of one of the series fastest tracks, if they suspended him it would have gone against their "hands off" policy to let the drivers police themselves.

Bristol sure will be interesting! :beerbang:

UPDATE: AP is now saying that Edwards will be on probation for the next 3 races.
 
Yep, he will be on probation for the next 3 races, no lost of points or fines, just a three race probation.

That seems kinda weak to be honest.
 
I'm surprised. I was planning my "thats unfair" speech and now I'll have to prepare my "he dodged a bullet (no pun intended)" speech. I think that it was a little light, if you ask me, surprised about the non penalty.

Its Bristol time, baby!!!!!
 
This will be interesting to see what kind of message that this will send to the drivers. It looks like anything is game. I gotta wonder where that line is. :confused:
 
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