NASCAR Death Bed

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Bob Mac, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. mathematician

    mathematician Tire changer

    Agreed 100%
    It's not rocket science...and it wouldn't cost much money either...but no, let's just add more gimmicks...
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  2. Revman

    Revman Deal with it.

    Make the cars more of a focus of the sport. The FIA just awarded the Ford Focus "Car of the Year." Imagine that....celebrating the machine that makes the man!
  3. Michfan

    Michfan Team Owner

    For those of you that are apprehensive about reading this 52 page thread, don't worry I have cliffnotes

    Nascar deathbedders: Nascar sucks, it will die soon

    Other people: it's not as popular as the Golden Days, but there is good racing and nascar will continue

    Deathbedder: you're dumb

    Rinse and repeat
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  4. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    Other people: no you're dumb

    Rinse and repeat

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  5. mathematician

    mathematician Tire changer

    I have mine as well

    NASCAR fanboys: Everything is perfect, gimmicks are fun, ratings and attendance don't count

    Other people: (worried for the future of the sports) it would be easy to fix NASCAR and bring it back to its former glory

    NASCAR fanboys: It is in profit! you are a deathbedder!

    Rinse and repeat
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  6. be9ak7ts16

    be9ak7ts16 Hick

    Amazing, guy with 2 posts was here for a month and this thread still lives.
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  7. Johali

    Johali Team Owner Contributor

  8. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

  9. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Concerned fan.

    Wow, Nascar races had almost 800k less viewers per race than 2017. The playoff races were not well attended and the finale had empty seats.

    These gimmicks and brain dead ideas are killing things.

    Nascar apologist.

    It doesn’t matter how many people watch the races as Nascar is impervious to that sort of thing. Besides the ratings were 100% in my home. 25k in attendance for the Brickyard is boffo.

    This is fun! Next!!
  10. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Are you still struggling with alcohol addiction?
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  11. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Are you still struggling to be nice?
  12. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    This thread is a train wreck but I can’t take my eyes off of it...since it’s the off-season when I log onto this fine board I’ve been stopping in here first and I have to say I’ve yet to be disappointed.
  13. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    Can I seriously ask you a question....if it’s as bad as you say it is, why do you watch? Why do you give up your own time which I’m sure you find valuable to watch something you hate? Hey I have to say I hate the points systems, most of the tracks and my favorite driver from childhood no longer competes however I don’t hate it enough to keep watching or at the very least go onto a internet message board to harass complete strangers by beating them over the head with my view point. Do I watch as much as when I was Do I occasionally skip a race because I need a break...maybe. But I’m not going to come here and expect if I type enough of what I hate that people will follow my lead. Why do you do it is what I am asking? What’s your end game? Do you expect others to think like you?
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  14. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Because he cares about the sport he loves just like I do and because he is a realist unlike the apologists here.
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  15. kyle18fan

    kyle18fan Proud member of Rowdy Nation Contributor

    Pardon me folks, I clicked on the wrong deathbed thread :(
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  16. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    Easily done.
  17. Snappy D

    Snappy D 2017 Pick Em Champion 2018 Bold Predictor

    So do you feel those that disagree with your view point don’t care about the sport?
  18. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    Fair question and let me first say I don’t hate Nascar and in fact saw some very good races this year.

    I am not hear to change anyone’s mind.

    I don’t expect others to think like me.

    I am here because I like the forum and find it entertaining.

    The way I see it is if anyone is troubled or offended by me they can put me on ignore.

    If I haven’t addressed you questions in a satisfactory manner please let me know.
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  19. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    I think they have their blinders on, I think they care, but won't admit it's in serious trouble.
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  20. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    All 3 of you?
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  21. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

  22. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Why does it matter to you so much he changed nicknames?
  23. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    On the odd occasion that I take questions, rest assured I won’t be taking any from you.
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  24. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Oh Yeh why is that oh arrogant Aunty?
  25. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    So, how much longer will it take for NASCAR to die?
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  26. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    I don't know ...enlighten us.
  27. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    I’m not the one making the assertion.
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  28. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Where did I say it was going to die tomorrow? Where did I say it's going to die? What I said was it's in major trouble.
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  29. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    I wasn’t originally responding to you.
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  30. aunty dive

    aunty dive Team Owner

    That happens a lot.
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  31. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Who were you responding too was right afte my I answered and I'll answer for all you apologists here...wake up and admit your favorite sport is in trouble.
  32. sloggie

    sloggie Racing I will teach you

    So the time to worry starts when fans that are engaged talk about how changes are needed. At this point, stuff is still fixable. Posting is a sign that the fan is still engaged.

    The time to panic is when those fans stop being engaged. At that point, they have moved on and it doesn't matter what NASCAR does because those fans are not coming back.

    Make sense?
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  33. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner

    Makes total sense, now see if you can get that through the thick heads of the 2 apologists here who insist on discouraging alternate viewpoints.
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  34. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Team Owner

    A good sign that things are bad is when you lose almost 800k in viewership year of year as just happened. It doesn’t mean anything is dying but it is a brutal loss
  35. mack

    mack Team Owner

    Out of curiosity, how would anyone outside of NASCAR know what it would cost to implement all these changes? What about contractual obligations that are already in place? Can NASCAR just walk away from those? Contracts with tracks, tv and such? That could get very expensive I would think.
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  36. Ventisca

    Ventisca Team Owner Contributor

    I read the title of the thread.


    I opened up the first post from June 10, 2017.

    So, I asked the question. If I was addressing you, I would’ve quoted your post or directly asked you.

    Not everything is about you... :D
  37. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I no doubt have confidence in the business giants we have here at RF will get it straightened out.:confused: We will have to catch one or two running around hysterically telling all we're in trouble we're in trouble,:eek::bigfight: and another one keeping a running tally with up to the minute reports of last years record lows, singing the same ol song every day.:jamming: and the tweakers will continue to try to put Humpty back together again, cursing the gimmicks while coming up with their own. :lurk:
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  38. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    Interesting. Makes it sound like you know what everyone on the forum involved in this discussion does or did for a living. If you don't, then you are making a bunch of assumptions in your post.
    Last edited: Dec 4, 2018
  39. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Beause he doesnt have a habit of beating his head up against the wall like I do.
  40. Michfan

    Michfan Team Owner

    We don't need this type of talk in the main forum.

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