NASCAR Death Bed

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Bob Mac, Jun 11, 2017.

  1. mack

    mack Team Owner

    To offer a reasonable, respectful answer. I don't think NASCAR will ever die. Will it contract? Quite possibly. Will the schedule shrink back to its former 29 race season? Maybe so. No one on this forum knows for sure. Could it go back to a more regional sport? Who knows for sure? One aspect that is often overlooked is the changing demographics of the American population. And, we're no where near the car culture that we used to be, even as recent as the eighties. I think the sport is cemented into the American sports entertainment as much as the NFL, MLB and the NBA. All three of which have had their problems with stagnation over the course of their existence. So, my best guess is NASCAR will survive,
     
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  2. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    I have always maintained Nascar will be around in one form or another for many years. The biggest challenge for Nascar is to cultivate a younger audience but that is much easier said then done.

    With an average age of 60 the Nascar fan is aging out and dying off much faster than new fans are being added. If IndyCar can survive so can Nsscar.
     
  3. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    The question is how will all these newer 1.5 mile tracks make enough money to survive after Nascar contracts fully? Most of these tracks will have a tough time existing with one date, hell they are having a tough time now with 2, they can't fill seats now, even after tearing out thousands.
     
  4. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    If Nascar does not get similar dollars in the next broadcast deal it will be tough going for the tracks. It is possible that some will be bulldozed and repurposed.
     
  5. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    venues that large hosts many events besides racing all year long
     
  6. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    I know IMS has a lot going on and I’m sure other tracks do too. However they have a huge nut to crack so finding as many purposes as possible is wise.
     
  7. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    They have been doing it for years.
     
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  8. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    Anyway to generate revenue makes sense.
     
  9. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

  10. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

  11. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

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  12. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    I am fine with tracks making as much dough as they can through any legal means. MIS is doing lights this year and I hope the weather is good and lotsa people go.
     
  13. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Yeh and how long before they get another Cup date?
     
  14. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    All these tracks will die quickly if they don't get racing. You can only do so many concerts and racing classes.
     
  15. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Nobody is losing a face so what are you talking about? More Speculation with no factual basis.
     
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  16. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Rockingham lost thier date even when the sport was booming because it wasnt supported
     
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  17. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Like i said when they getting another one? When is NH?
     
  18. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    How long can these big tracks hold on with drawing only 40k per race?
     
  19. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    How's it feel...the typo deal? Most of these tracks can't sustain 2 races, when the schedule is reduced, what then?
     
  20. Michfan

    Michfan Team Owner

    I look forward to the next 53 pages. I think we are right on the verge of someone's mind being changed.
     
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  21. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    The irony with Rockingham is one of the reasons they lost their dates was capacity. If the track had been kept up and was still on the schedule it would have empty seats at its date(s)

    The Rock was fun while it lasted
     
  22. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Huh? NH just lost one this year, so your statement is false.
     
  23. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Right, not filling capacity. Not the need for more seats
     
  24. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    How about all the empty seats at in this past seasons races, thats not a concern to you?
     
  25. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    My statement is correct, Smith Moved a race to Vegas, its wasnt a mandated schedule change by NASCAR genius.Its the same company that owns NH. Nobody is losing a race, they are under contract.
     
  26. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Concerned about what?
     
  27. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Don't play coy...concerned that no race sold out, that there were empty seats at every one of them...a lot in fact.
     
  28. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    lol. The race was moved by the parent company to a bigger Market, you cant be this dumb.
     
  29. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Apparently you are, NH lost a date, whether it got moved or not is besides the point the track lost a date, there is no other way around it. Spin it all you want, did both those Vegas races sell out?
     
  30. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    I'm not concerned one bit, I dont care about empty seats, I dont care if you enjoy it or not, I do. I've made myself clear I dont care if drivers take a pay cut, teams get less money for sponsors etc..... I love racing and thats it.
     
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  31. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    Name whos losing a race?
     
  32. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Fine, I love racing also, but I'm also concerned for the sport I love.
     
  33. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    I just did NH already lost one.
     
  34. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

  35. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    And you are wrong, NH lost a race.
     
  36. Spotter22

    Spotter22 Team Owner

    You should quit drinking.
     
  37. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Bob Mac with an all-time great drive-by.
     
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  38. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    At the time I hated to see the Rock go but I understood the reasons. I never thought much about the boom and I didn’t forecast the bust.
     
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  39. Michfan

    Michfan Team Owner

    Whaaat?
     
  40. Ventisca

    Ventisca Jackman Contributor

    “Death Bed” threads need to expire in ten days or immediately after the funeral for whatever was on it — whichever comes first.

    It’s really just airing grievances — and trolling...
     
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