SILLY SEASON 2019

Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Biggreen695, Jul 7, 2018.

Tags:
  1. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    I think you are right. Adam Stern is reporting that Arris is in the picture as well. So maybe The Preacher didn't have handcuffs on Arris like we suspected he did...

     
  2. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Or Arris wrote JGR a big fat check to get out of the deal.
     
    rd45usa, LewTheShoe and IanMcVittie like this.
  3. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    The only person I read that claimed JGR was holding Arris hostage was SOI. Even though they likely never were it is still ok for you guys to hate them.
     
  4. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Just spit it out there and see if it sticks, ol three namer. :p My own little stalker.

     
    mack, Ventisca and Charlie Spencer like this.
  5. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    You were the only person I read that said it but I never said you were the only one. Either way it seems likely to be erroneous Mr. Apologist:D
     
  6. LJ7201

    LJ7201 Crew Chief

    I'm ok with Suarez saying that if he goes out and backs it up next season, if not then it's a bad look. More drivers speaking up about this kinda stuff is entertaining and the sport needs some real drama opposed forced narratives.
     
  7. Ventisca

    Ventisca Jackman Contributor

    Hi!

    La Paz port city in Baja Mexico had a beach walkway (malecón?) — on my motorcycle ride from Laredo across Mexico (mainland) to Topolobampo (port) taking a ferry to other port city La Paz, Baja then onto Cabo.
     
    LJ7201 and Charlie Spencer like this.
  8. Ventisca

    Ventisca Jackman Contributor

    As for Suarez — probably a comfortable millionaire like a lot of the other Cup
    drivers. So, while I hope he achieves “self-actualization” under Maslow’s higher needs; I won’t feel sorry for him and his Cup Dreams plight.

    I just hope he never forgets what Holy Joe did for him and to him... :D
     
  9. LewTheShoe

    LewTheShoe Team Owner

    I'm curious where this line of reasoning comes from? Daniel Suarez is rather young, and I doubt he has socked away much of a retirement account in his very short career... after beginning with nothing. Anyway, my observation of Racers, particularly young ones, is that they tend to interpret Maslow's hierarchy differently from most psychologists. They're just not wired like civilians, as a general rule.
     
    Charlie Spencer likes this.
  10. Ventisca

    Ventisca Jackman Contributor

    I enjoy NASCAR and the storylines of personal ups and downs, professional highs and lows, dramas, etc — it connects me to the teams, personalities, and racing that much more. But Suarez has resources from sponsors, JGR, etc that far exceed what most people his age or even families that pay to watch him race.

    I will be one of his fans if he finally checks into his new unit at SHR, and his motivation to beat JGR on the track should be fun to watch.

    That being said, Suarez is using his talent, but has also had a great opportunity as a young competitor to drive for a Championship level organization. He’s not living hand to mouth and he’s got a great future ahead of him.

    His words about JGR disappointed me — prompting my post. His problems are dealing with a sport; If he wants to take his role more seriously, he’s got to realize that it’s not just about him and not getting the best equipment, crew, resources at JGR to win, it is about the rest of JGR as an organization supporting their personnel and families doing the best they can to keep it all afloat with satisfied sponsors and competitive teams. JGR would rather have Team Truex/Pearn race for them than against them. As for his team situation the past two years, that’s life in multi-car organizations — there are advantages and disadvantages.

    Suarez appeared to be the most expendable, but while he fights for his future, he should be grateful about his past with JGR and the NASCAR Program that helped him get to where he is. He’s a young driver in a garage where there are s few Cup Champions who have “switched” teams sling the way — e.g. the 2018 Final Four have all been down this road. :D

    Suarez is not a victim — he should stop sounding like one.
     
    LJ7201, DIDIT and Hawaii808 like this.
  11. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner


    How come if a fella answers a question honestly, he is whining or throwing people under the bus? He was in the same boat as young Joey. Champion steps out of the car and everyone expects the kid pushed into the seat to mirror the old team. Never going to happen and especially at JGR where the two top drivers have no problem protecting their status while in the meantime neither is a champion, however, one did win a championship.
    If you need another example of this, check out what happened to Truex who was racing with
    a JGR pit crew. Good demonstration of Pius Joe's type of love and family.
     
    LJ7201, kkfan91 and Mopardh9 like this.
  12. Revman

    Revman May God Bless Coach Joe Gibbs and all JGR Fans

    Very surprised by this. Two years in arguably the best equipment, and you say you never had a team to win? Geez.
     
  13. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    We have our caution maker for next year.
     
  14. Mopardh9

    Mopardh9 Team Owner Contributor

    Never heard of him
     
  15. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Berryhill has not driven in like what four years as a full-time driver?

    Welcome to hell provided by Victor Obaika. Can't wait for the memes.
     
    mack and LewTheShoe like this.
  16. Ventisca

    Ventisca Jackman Contributor

    QUOTE="Team Penske, post: 1503428, member: 8665"]How come if a fella answers a question honestly, he is whining or throwing people under the bus? He was in the same boat as young Joey. Champion steps out of the car and everyone expects the kid pushed into the seat to mirror the old team. Never going to happen and especially at JGR where the two top drivers have no problem protecting their status while in the meantime neither is a champion, however, one did win a championship.
    If you need another example of this, check out what happened to Truex who was racing with
    a JGR pit crew. Good demonstration of Pius Joe's type of love and family.[/QUOTE]

    I believe Suarez is making the argument that he did not have proper circumstances (equipment, personnel disruptions, etc) to win -- his motivation for making those statements about his opportunity at JGR in the #19 car is unknown -- whether embarrassment for not winning or he's trying to keep a positive ego about why someone with his level of talent was unable to win.

    Suarez should've taken the high road and thanked Holy Joe and JGR for his opportunity in both Xfinity (as a Champion) and in a premiere championship-level Cup Car for two years -- IMHO. Stay classy and understand the bigger picture, then get on with your life and go win some races.

    As for being in a similar situation than Joey, that is my point, not yours. The 2018 Final Four all got shuffled around on their way to eventual titles.

    As for his opportunity in a Championship-level multi-car team -- Suarez shouldn't be complaining as much as going out to grab that victory. The HMS stable once had JJ, JG, and Junior all fighting for resources. JJ somehow prevailed against both JG and Junior for Championships -- but I believe their individual teams were all scrapping for the best of the best in cars, parts, talent, etc; and they all won races.

    If Suarez couldn't win in JGR equipment and with JGR personnel, then like Chase -- he needs to look inside and reflect on why he has not been successful;
    instead we get Festivus...
     
  17. Allenbaba

    Allenbaba Team Owner

    We should be hearing from Kurt today.
     
  18. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I don't think so at all. Suarez made his bed, drew the line and he had better perform in an SHR car. Tired of mamby pamby drivers. Thinking out of school, Suarez was pulled up with little if any experience, wasn't given enough time to perform and he thinks given the resources to do so. Two years in cup? who becomes an instant winner these days. The stats show he did much worse his second year than his first. Probably could argue the reasons for that, but at first glance that is unusual to do worse your second year than your first in the same? equipment.
     
    LJ7201 likes this.
  19. Biggreen695

    Biggreen695 Team Owner

    Is the news what we expect?

    Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk
     
  20. Flyer22

    Flyer22 Team Owner

    But maybe it's true. It was certainly true for the 22 team when he was over there. I would hate to be the "4th wheel" on that team as it seems the other 3 get almost all the attention and probably better prep and equipment.
     
    Ventisca likes this.
  21. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    I think Berryhill is paying for his own hell. lol
     
  22. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    IMO Suarez sounded like he had a case of sour grapes and ingratitude. Still Nascar fans are difficult to please as the complaints of vanilla drivers is heard often but when someone speaks his mind it isn't good
     
  23. IanMcVittie

    IanMcVittie Car Chief

    I think Chris Knight was Peter on the Brady Bunch:D

    As far as the tweet content it sounds like someone wants to be another rolling chicane
     
    Charlie Spencer likes this.
  24. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Not really, he can express his feelings. I'm not extremely fond of it, but like Joey Logano maybe Daniel was not the greatest fit for JGR. Maybe SHR will be a better situation for him and Daniel is no slouch of a driver. He's a quick learner, but maybe JGR at the Cup level was not as attractive as it was going through the truck and Xfinity series.

    I'm sure Daniel is greatful for Gibbs and company helping his upstart to stardom, but I think SHR with Harvick, Bowyer, and Almirola will be a good thing for him. All three are very open to helping one another. I think Kyle Busch was on Daniel's side though. I still remember when Kyle jumped in Daniel's Xfinity car when he could not pinpoint what was wrong with it. Kyle was instrumental with helping Daniel along the way, but it has to be something deeper than what we see in the headlines and text.
     
  25. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Well Berryhill's track record tells me that this was his only option.

    I hope Obiaka pays him, unlike his Xfinity project...
     
    StandOnIt likes this.
  26. superchuck500

    superchuck500 Crew Chief

  27. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Heh Heh, what a surprise...not
     
  28. AndyMarquisLive

    AndyMarquisLive Short Track Fanatic

    I asked Matt McCall about working with Kurt in the offseason and next year after the Thanksgiving Classic He said, "I don't know what you're talking about." LOL.
     
    FLRacingFan and Charlie Spencer like this.
  29. ChexOrWrex

    ChexOrWrex Ya gotta wanna

    NeW #1 iN tOwN!
     
    FLRacingFan and Hawaii808 like this.
  30. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Its a big upgrade from Jaime Mac though. I loved Jaime Mac as a driver, but last year he was straight up abysmal. Well that he had a lot of bad luck, but his time was up with CGR.

    Kyle Larson and Kurt Busch are a strong pairing on paper. Lets see how they get on.
     
    FLRacingFan, LewTheShoe and Hawaii808 like this.
  31. Towmater

    Towmater Ratings Craterville

    Yes, they are. If they have great cars then they could be the "Big Two" next season. LOL, can't wait for Rick to advise us on the playoff implications.
     
  32. Will be curious to see how badly JamieMac unperfomed that car. I like Jamie and all but he should have been out of cup 4 years ago.
     
    FLRacingFan, LewTheShoe and Hawaii808 like this.
  33. Team Penske

    Team Penske Team Owner

    Just because he was in a JGR car does not mean he had the best equipment. I have heard drivers say, "scrap this junk, don't try to fix it."
     
  34. rd45usa

    rd45usa Days gone past

  35. AdoubleU24

    AdoubleU24 Team Owner

    The number looks weird on that paint scheme
     
    FLRacingFan and ChexOrWrex like this.
  36. Ventisca

    Ventisca Jackman Contributor

    Silly Season

    “Put an a**hole on a plane in Boston an a**hole gets off in Seattle”
    -Stephen King
     
  37. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Figured this was coming
     
  38. wi_racefan

    wi_racefan Crew Chief

    Well it sounds like the money from Monster definitely isn't near enough to cover the whole season for Kurt. I wonder who else they have on the line for sponsorship? Kurt's past hasn't shown him to be a huge sponsor draw.

    Sent from my SM-G950U using Tapatalk
     
  39. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Does that about wrap up the 2018 / 19 Silly Season, at least at the Cup level?
     
  40. StandOnIt

    StandOnIt Farm Truck

    Suarez is about it concerning the big dogs to find a spot. I knew 99% that Kurt to Ganassi, and the same goes to Suarez. I think Suarez's announcement was tied to Kurt's and in the next day or so he will announce his plans. Sho Biz. Interesting Truex slid in under the radar when they were chewing up Rodney and spoilergate. I wonder if this was by luck or design. The press was sure focused on the SHR penalty at the time. I'm pretty sure Rev will appear and set me straight on his Toyota's and Joe love.
     

Share This Page