Discussion in 'NASCAR chat' started by Restrictor Plate King!, Aug 9, 2014.
GP's father responded, "That there si-reen looks like a fleysh-lyte"
This teams peaking at a good time.
That young Elliott kid ain’t going to amount to anything.
I thought Kyle was going to reel Chase in but not today. Not a bad day for some guy that is a bust.
I thought I was through with the pacing and worrying when Dale Jr. retired. LOL
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Chase Elliott is 22 years, 328 days today for his 3rd career win.
Only one other driver has won 3 Cup races before turning 23. Kyle Busch, (3rd win at 21 years, 75 days).
Only other drivers to do it before turning 24 are Richard Petty, Joey Logano, Jeff Gordon, Junior Johnson.
I still think about Ford turning down Bill and Chase.
Obviously we have hindsight but it still seems like a no brainer to me
where was he going to go with Ford? Roush?, have Ford persuade Penske after he just switched to Ford..if he had yet? I don't know the timing, but Ford wasn't doing so well business wise in the fairly recent past. Hendrick knew he was going to have some openings soon I would think.
Exactly. Blessing in disguise. If he would’ve ended up at Roush then his career would have been DOA.
boy this one would get them going over at the car or the driver thread. I don't think baby jesus can get a Roush car into the three win column about now.
When Elliott hooked up with Hendrick for K&N in 2011 that was right in the middle of the automakers bailout. Roush was broke, Penske was running Dodges.
I vaguely remember there being a thread here calling him a bust when I first signed up. That sure has not aged well, now has it?
I've read some of it, funny how some have done an about face suddenly.
Nah, that narrative is very much alive. “With all the equipment and advantages he’s been handed, he should have 10-15 wins!!!” If they don’t play that card, it’s the tired “just imagine if Larson wasn’t handcuffed with Ganassi equipment!!!” It’s ok, though. The first 2.5 years were rough with disappointment as an Elliott fan. But it’s been really fun to watch the transformation starting after Martinsville last year until now. Makes this roll all the sweeter. Even better that there were no flukes (plate races, fuel mileage, etc.). He’s beaten the best in the business each time. The mental monkey is officially off his back. I hate it for the other drivers’ guys.
Good.run by Chase. Getting the monkey off his back was big
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That monkey? that monkey has jumped up on winless Hambone's back and is riding him like he stole him.
Man, what I thought would have been with Denny lol
Thought he was the real deal
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The thing is, at the time it was just about running late models and seeing what the kid really had. They had LOTS of time to figure out what to do with him. I like the Rick Hendrick the Toyota approach of "Let's get good prospects into the pipeline and figure out just where to put them later." How many times has Hendrick signed a driver and THEN built a team for them?
not very many he said one time we must have wrecked 50 cars trying that.
The 24 and 48 teams were built AFTER their drivers were signed. Not quite the same thing, but the 25 and the 17 teams were too. Hendrick made room for Brian Vickers, Kyle Busch and he tried like hell to make room for Keselowski, he was just a year off on available slots. The period when they tore up so many cars was when they were still trying to run their own Busch Series team, which honestly was never very good. Some of the guys they tried out also seemed like quite a reach. Since he turned that part of the deal over to JRM, the results have been MUCH better.
I mean he did get handed a team that went to the championship 4 when Larson got a Juan Pablo Montoya team so it does hold weight. They are both great drivers but you can’t honestly say that Chase has had a better opportunity. HMS is just a better organization.
no it wasn't but I am not going to get into a three page line of B.S. , believe what you want to believe, it was after Hendrick was asked the question of if he wanted to have a farming system like Toyota has and he said already tried that, wrecked like 50 cars don't want to do that again.
He doesn't have to. He has JR Motorsports for that. They do the work and he gets Cup drivers. Once JJ hangs it up, it is entirely possible that all four HMS drivers will be JRM alumni.
Chase looks well on his way to having the most wins at HMS combined this year, like I predicted.
Yes, HMS was better, but Larson also had chances to get into top tier cars if rumors were true but stayed with Chip. Larson is a hell of a wheelman, but so is Chase. At this point, I'd argue that Chase is mentally tougher than Larson. Still, I'd hire either to drive my car in a nanosecond.
I'd bump that old thread by posting in it, but I don't want to get in trouble.
Add a kid named gordon and evernham
Old Jack screwed that up .
No, it was Ford, refuse bill Davis 's plan. He had it all lined up.
this kid could win the 'ship.......
He only won because Harvick sped
Congrats to Chase! His victories and momentum have put him squarely into contention for a championship.
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