What an odd thing to say. Nascar is clearly a niche sport, as is every other form of motorsports. Always has been niche, and always will be. The only exception was a brief period of time when Nascar became a mainstream cultural fad, roughly mid 1990's through mid 2000's.Your post makes it appear that NASCAR is a niche sport and not a major sport. That confuses me. Is it a major sport or a niche sport?
There used to be backstretch stands at Phoenix as well, but in 2004 they didn't have as many seats in old 1-2 as they do now. There must've been about 50k on rattlesnake hillReally? Where did they sit because Phoenix hasnt removed that many seats. Must of had a boat load on the hill
Ok sorry off by 5k, all I know is it was packed and took me 3 hours to get out of there, they even had a good crowd for the truck race.
The first race at Phoenix has a listed attendance of 63k but the track didn't close to that many seats. I'm pretty sure the seating capacity was in the 35-40k range in 1988. Not sure how they came up with the 63k figure on racing reference.
Don’t forget that UFC craze as well.What an odd thing to say. Nascar is clearly a niche sport, as is every other form of motorsports. Always has been niche, and always will be. The only exception was a brief period of time when Nascar became a mainstream cultural fad, roughly mid 1990's through mid 2000's.
For a brief decade, Nascar was a white hot social scene... and then it wasn't. It was fueled primarily by a lifestyle fantasy. Like every cultural fad, the hoards arrived suddenly, with insatiable appetites, and then moved on to graze in another pasture. BOOM... BUST. The tennis craze. The country/western urban cowboy craze. The racquetball boom. The Harley-Davidson boom and chopper-style motorcycles generally.
Fans of racing are not uncomfortable in a niche situation. Fans of The Nascar Lifestyle tend to be uncomfortable, but fans of racing have always made their own path. Mainstream sports enjoy numerous important advantages. The largest one is taxpayer funded infrastructure and development system. Another biggie is "the home team" effect that fuels stick-and-ball sports. If that's what you need, allow me to direct you to the exit ramp.
I went to one race sitting in those backstretch seats, I didn't enjoy the race that much being in that area or those seats.
Funny you should mention them. I keep thinking about an interview in Playboy that I stumbled across in 2008 (I had to look that up) with Dana White in which he predicted that in five year the UFC would be bigger than the NFL and the World Cup. I also think about a time when on a given weeknight you could surf across the cable TV channels and find as many as four different wrestling shows on. Today, I can't even remember the last time I surfed across a wrestling show. (I don't watch wrestling, mma or boxing, as I find them all barbaric and stupid). It's funny how things come and go. It saddens me that it has to a certain extent happened to NASCAR, but I guess we should have known it was going to happen. If you took away gambling and fantasy, I wonder how how much the NFL would shrink too.Don’t forget that UFC craze as well.
So go and watch the race from tightwad hill. It's a good place to watch from, and you don't have to pay the high prices at the concession stand. If you have reclining bucket seats you can sleep in the car. I'm only 57 years old, so I can still do the car thing if I have to. Then again I am usually by myself when I do that.I quit going because the last time I went it cost me $500.00 for just me to go to the races and stay one night in a motel.
That's the thing.fans are older, dying off and not enough new fans are being recruited.With the exception of select races I think attendance between 25-35,000 will be seen as normal. There are still plenty of current fans that would really like to go to the track but can't for a number of reasons. Being on a fixed income and health issues like arthritis, heart and vascular issues plus just getting older don't make it easy for a lot of today's NASCAR fans.
Just an obvious observation, I think a lot of fans care, but for the ones that care, there are just as many who are disgusted and turning to other things to occupy their free time.I wonder if the fans that pass away care anymore? You are so right, thanks for agreeing with me.
I hope that is just your opinion because of your own dislikes. I am another old timerJust an obvious observation, I think a lot of fans care, but for the ones that care, there are just as many who are disgusted and turning to other things to occupy their free time.
I said this before, I'll give it 5 races, if it isn't good, I won't be watching too many after that. I for one thought this season had lots of good racing, so I couldn't understand why NASCAR wanted to change it.I hope that is just your opinion because of your own dislikes. I am another old timer
(75) and like many people my age I don't like to many changes. ( my memory can't keep track)
however I approach each year of racing with the anticipation of seeing what teams can adapt to the new rules for this year. On top of that, some drivers want their same car and so they mentally can not adapt to the current season system. I think this is what happened to JJ the last couple years. Next season he could be the winning driver with a different car.